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Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Colin Minihan: Canada’s Gift to the World of Film By Christine Albrecht

Colin Minihan: Canada’s Gift to the World of Film
Interview By Christine Albrecht
Recent Award: MuchMusic’s Director of the Year




I determined two years ago that Colin Minihan is an artist, filmmaker ‘genius’, who has been pushing the boundaries of old-school video filming. Collin’s injecting quirky, hard-to-pin-down, visual collages using film manipulation, as well as (what appears to be to be) a layering of textural visuals over saturated colours. It wouldn’t surprised me if Colin’s name soon becomes an oft-used adjective/noun attached to a specific video style. A reviewer in the near future will be writing: “Clearly the director was aiming for a Minihan effect.”

My first "Minihan experience" was the band Mother Mother’s video, O' My Heart. I’ve never tired of this great video and tune. It appears my recent fave Minihan video is GOB's Banshee Song. Hmm, I think I am developing a 'mood' theme, here... Let's see, depressing look - check, goth appearance - check, very creepy pale kids - check, and so on...
This can't be a good direction for a writer/ researcher/ music reviewer/ and (clears throat) elementary teacher. Heh...

See the "behind-the-scenes" of O' My Heart I now appreciate the overwhelming amount of work involved by ALL those involved in a vid8o shoot,.

I began researching other videos/films done by Colin Minihan and was surprised to see how prolific this director is, without becoming stale or repetitive )or even known for that matter!). After viewing hours of film footage, I’ve just decided to quit attempting to track or compare his style to that of other directors' and/or cinematographers'. I have finally determined that Minihan is like ... Minihan. Furthermore, this 'most interesting' fact about Colin Minihan, could also be his most beneficial...

You see, with Colin being born on May 18, 1985... (Yes, he's 25 years-old) ... he's shown that he's accomplished more in his short career, than most 35+ year-old directors have in their lifetimes. Also, Colin was born at a perfect time. Young enough to witness a new format (MM/MTV) being birthed to millions of viewers, yet old enough to be one of the first video generational babies to actually cross the threshold into videography. I am impressed that Colin goes above and beyond when it comes to effort on his works of art. He's had to work hard to get to where he's at. He just happened to start earlier than his industry peers. It was fortunate that Colin Minihan knew what his passion was at a time when most of us are trying to decide whether to choose Algebra or Principal’s Math, during our high school scheduling.



Not only was Colin Minihan able to identify his passion, but he also pursued and honed it, and for that (among his numerous talents) he deserved the Director of the Year Award (2009).
I could get all artsy and described his camera-work; his interesting sparring between light and shadow; his use of unusual subjects, and/or his hypnotic juxtaposition of images I call them Minihanisms. But I’d rather you google his name, or go to his site and view his body of work. His work speaks for itself, saying something different to each viewer, much like a work of art does.

Soon Colin's name will be a reference point for filming; much like Tim Burton’s name speaks volumes about the quality of a film's artistic manipulation.



Colin's Lifestyle for the Cameras:



Colin's Real Life Style:



Here is a short, online interview with film director, Colin Minihan. I apologize in advance for the lack of more insightful questions regarding his approach towards filmmaking, If you have any specific questions regarding equipment Colin used, or are curious about his technical approach, please add your questions here, or contact him directly through his site.

Swanktrendz (ST) Colin Minihan (CM) I have divided the interview into two sections: Personal information and Work information.

Personal

Swanktrendz
: I have gleaned that you were born on May 18, 1985 in Port McNeill, B.C. Is this the case?

Colin Minihan: True.

ST: Did you live in Port McNeill all of your childhood? What was it like living in a small town located on the Northeast corner of Vancouver Island? Can you list the benefits of such an environment for a child? The detriments?

CM: Yes, I was born in Victoria and my dad took a teaching job in Port McNeill so I lived there pretty much from the get go up until I graduated high school and moved away (when I was 18).
Growing up on the northern tip of Vancouver Island required a two-hour drive, through the woods, to get to the nearest movie theatre. It was frustrating and I wished someone would reopen the movie theatre every day growing up. (It had been open, before my time, but sunk.) I used to visit my grandparents in Vancouver during the summer, but then my heart would sink when I saw the Port McNeill sign on the way back.



I think, ultimately, growing up in a small town was a good place for me because during high school I was allowed to turn the town into my own little movie set. The Port MacNeill Police Department would let me shoot in their jail cells, and I would use police officers in a few of my short films. I was making these anti-crime films at the time and I was learning a ton. It was hilarious closing down McNeill Road to film a police chase with digital 8 cameras strapped all sketchily to cop cars. This would never have happened had Kelly Carson, who worked doing community justice programs for kids in the town, hadn't seen a short film of mine years before and applied for a government grant, so I would be able to film more… She got the grant, and I just made these anti-crime movies throughout all of grade 11 and 12. I doubt this would have been available in a city. It was a rare opportunity and the experience definitely helped solidify the fact, without a doubt, of what I wanted to do with my life.
I’m not going to list benefits to growing up in a small town though, or make broad statements about whether you should raise your kids in a small to:wn versus the city. I think both places have pros and cons and that’s it. I was lucky.


ST: Do you have any siblings? If so what are their names, and are they older or younger? Are they artsy like you?

CM: My older brother Ryan is in the army and he just served in Afghanistan. We are very, very different, however, he was always good with a pencil and could outdraw me any day. My Aunt is also a pretty awesome painter and I had a great great-grandfather who was a relatively popular artist. We have a ton of his paintings, mostly landscape stuff, but they are great. I also have three younger half-brothers from my Dad’s side who live on the east coast.

ST: Mom, Dad or both? Together/ divorced? (I realize this question may appear odd, and I certainly am not looking for dirty details, but I have discovered that many talented men, who end up in the music industry, have come from single mother headed households. As well, all of these mothers were highly supportive of their son’s endeavors.) Were your folks supportive of your interest in filming?

CM: I'm not really in the music industry per-say, so this question probably doesn't apply so well to me, but I'll answer it anyways. My parents are divorced, and I stayed with Mom for the most part. She purchased my first camera (that had firewire) when I was around the age of 12 ... it was an expensive present. She witnessed me wear out her VHS-C camera (that I discovered at about age 8). She was very supportive of me using the house to stage epic gun battles with friends everyday, for camera.

ST: How old were you when you filmed your first ‘just for fun’ video? Was it of paintball, rollerblading, skateboarding? Did you edit and provide music/dialogue, or was it a silent clip? Was it a collaboration?

CM: I started reenacting scenes from movies when I was really young - probably about 8 years old, or so. I'd use the video camera for everything, including video replay for street hockey to judge whether or not the puck had crossed the line. I pretty much always filmed, and whoever was filming would direct. I think I was about 11 years old when I discovered you could edit on a VHS player and use the audio dub button on the camera to add Beastie Boys’ tracks to my chase scenes. This was an epic discovery. I remember being like, “No way!” then becoming much more obsessed at that point.

ST: Have you ever worked with Mac’s imovie software? If so, what did you think of it?

CM: No, but I know its similar to what I’ve learned to edit on for PC... Ulead Videostudio was my brand back in my pre-teens; then Media Studio Pro and Adobe Premiere when I was a teenager. I’m not sure imovie even existed at that time. The first computer I cut on was a Pentium, just above a 486 processor. It was brutal and would crash so frequently, after long days of work, I would get extremely upset.

ST: When did you start to enter filming competitions? What was your first competition, and how did you place?

CM: I used to enter a lot of little kid festivals (student film festivals). I won a few but I don't remember the exact first contest I entered.

ST: I noticed you in a clip, “Who is Your Hero?” and you stood out because a) you were so young, and b) you were so confident that you would be your own hero, through your actions in the future. (That would lead into a question – was service announcement scripted, or was that really your response “I want to be my hero… etc”?)

CM: This isn't me. I don’t know who that Colin Minihan is or why my name is linked to it but I do like what he said.

ST{ Here's the video that we're referring to, and yes the child looks nothing like Colin Minihan, but I could certainly imagine him saying things like this at that age, lol.

ST: I read you won the Willie Mitchell Classic when you were 19. Did this win provide you with much needed equipment, or was the Panasonic HD video camera ‘so-so’ in that it met only some of your artistic needs?

CM: It’s a camera I was happy to get it because I was broke, out of film school, and without the win, I would have been stuck shooting on SD for a little longer. I did my first Muchmusic breakout videos on that camera. It’s a great camera - pretty beat up now, but it stills works.

ST What other contests/competitions have you entered and placed in? (Top three?) Do you ever get nervous or shy, or are these words not part of your vocabulary?

CM: I used to submit videos and shorts to all kind of little contests and film festivals when I was a kid, but since I've started working mainly in music videos the annual “contest” in Canada would be the Muchmusic Video Awards. It was a good time when I won “Director of the Year” at the 2009 MMVA’s.



I’m not that cool. I get nervous, but I deal with it. I don't get nervous about directing an artist or talking to executive types. I get nervous over stupid things like a driver’s test or doing an interview.


ST: What music/bands were you listening to when you were 15? What music do you listen to now? As a music fan, do you find that you become obsessed with a band for a few months and then move on, or are you loyal to a group, buying all their CDs?

CM: I was into all sorts of music at 15. I used to love Blink 182, Matthew Good, and Beastie Boys. I was obsessed with the “Freak on a Leash” video by Korn. I’m not going to lie, I downloaded so much music when Napster first came out, I totally f'd myself out of ever having huge budgets in music videos. The record industry could not recover. I single-handedly crippled them with my downloading using my 56k dial up modem.

ST: Given that you’ve been so busy filming throughout your teens, were you able to complete high school? How did you do, overall, within the confines of formal education?


CM: I Graduated from high school with good grades. I really wanted to get the hell out of Port McNeill so I worked really hard in grade 11 and 12 to make sure my grades would be good enough to do a film course at a university that would accept me. I was good at studying the night before a test, and then forgetting everything as soon as the test was done. This of course did not help when the final exams came, but by then it was too late because my grade was already high and couldn't drop that badly. I received a few scholarships that allowed me go to film school, pretty much for free, after high school.


ST: What wise words can you offer those students who may be 15 and may be stuck between their idea of freedom (driving) yet still too young to access anything extracurricular/ of interest outside of school?
What would you say to teenagers who believe the high school typecast forced upon them, by an overbearing clique, actually foreshadows their success as an adult? (Sadly, I have spoken to enough teens who truly believe their school experiences predetermine their futures. If their school experience is horrible, they accept it as a sign of a dismal future.
Perhaps someone young, driven, and successful, can show these teens that high school is only a blip in one’s life and not a predictor of the future. (hint, hint)?

CM: I honestly think hard work pays off more than talent, brains etc... Talent and brains may allow some students to shine in high school, but if you are willing to work hard, putting in the effort and working harder than anyone else you know, then your efforts WILL pay off in some way, shape, or form, in life.
This is a good habit to try and pick up on in high school, or at least during grade 11 and 12. Let’s say you have a friend who is going to get an A+ on an upcoming test, even though he doesn't study... Meanwhile, you’re an average student who will fail if you don’t study... So, study your ass off, and get that B+. Eventually your studying/ hard work ethic will pay off, and your slacker friend will end up playing video games all night while you go off and write and direct a feature film… or whatever... become a doctor… (Remember, drugs can hold you back, too.)


ST: Was there any one person, or several people, (teachers, relatives, friends, etc.) whom you can point to and say that person definitely helped me while growing up because…?

CM: I’m going to save my thank-you speech for an awards show.

(Swanktrendz couldn’t find a clip of Colin’s acceptance speech for his Director-of-the-Year. So I think we still deserve an answer. Hint hint, Mr. Minihan – forward a clip or send us an answer…)

ST: At what age did you officially leave Port McNeill?

CM: 18 years old.

ST: Were you ever into Nirvana, or Eminem, when you were younger?

CM: Both

ST: List five of your favourite movies, either for plot, or for filming style.

CM: I just finished my first feature film – a horror film Cold Spots. So instead of listing my all time top five films, I am going to list my favorite horror films in celebration of this.

1: ALIEN
2: The Thing
3: The Fly
4: The Blob
5: Halloween


Side Note: Colin also created a film titled, Choice. It took him two years to complete. He wrote the screenplay in 11th grade and filmed it in 12th grade. According to Colin, keeping the actors involved for that amount of time was a big part of the challenge. Choice received the Best Cinematography Award after a showing at the Mini DV festival in Hollywood, California.

Work Questions

ST: Do you agree with this comment: “Canada has a habit of eating and spitting out, rather than supporting, its young talent?” Do you agree the music industry/ media will not acknowledge Canadian talent until the ‘talent’ has been embraced elsewhere? For example, once Canada learns that Europe, and/or the USA, has become fond of our home-grown (yet ignored) talent, Canada suddenly welcomes these artists into our tightly-guarded cultural community; proudly introducing them as “Canadian Talent” to the ‘world’ (same world that originally accepted aforesaid artists). Your thoughts?

CM:
I had written a long answer to this but I’d rather not talk about our Canadian music scene in that kind of detail. All I can say is that there are a ton of big bands in Canada that remain only big in Canada.


ST: In what way do you feel Myspace has impacted the music industry (good or bad), and thus impacted the role of directors, producers, etc.?

CM: Myspace did not impact the industry to the same degree as file sharing did. I think Myspace is a much more positive place – one that coexists with the record industry. It allows very easy promotion of tour dates, introduction of new music, fan interaction, chats with the band, etc. Social media platforms, in general, are a huge thing for any band (for promotion) as is Twitter. It lets their fans feel involved, or closer to the band, and in turn, makes the concert experience more exciting for the fans, more profitable for the labels, and so on.
You can click one button and you’re in itunes, purchasing the music you heard off a Myspace site. Myspace also reinforced the importance of videos... it solidified the fact that the music video continues to have a place in the music business.
Now that everything is viral, you get a lot of bands who request more crazy and unique video ideas, rather than the ones Muchmusic or MTV play (the ones that are safe and formulaic). In turn, you get a lot more people and video makers pushing the music video envelope into really cool and new directions.


ST: I think your videos are intriguing, artsy vignettes which introduce overt and subtle techniques. I love your attention to unique framing (with regards to subject/object) Sorry, I have to resort to photography terms as my videographer/ filmmaker lingo is subpar… (okay… nonexistent). Your work also contains fascinating editing techniques: stop starts, etc. and you clearly have a firm grasp on playing with subject lighting.
I’m curious as to how you ‘see’ a scene unfold prior to using the light/shadows, black/white contrasts, etc.?

CM: I generally have a good idea as to the complete colour pallet, and style of lighting that I want to use for each video treatment that I write. This comes after some pre-visualization, or it can happen right away, pending on the feeling you get from the music.
Different approaches fit different concepts and I like to challenge myself, whether that means doing a video full of long choreographed takes; a video that is done entirely in stop motion, or one that has a more classical, cinematic feel to it. It all depends on the vibe I get from the music, and what I see when I close my eyes or stare off into space.
I would hate to limit my work to one kind of visual style - which so many directors do in this business... I think diversity, and being able to jump between genres, is an important thing. I have no two videos that look exactly alike. I’d be bored as hell, if I did.


ST: Did you ever considered yourself a guerilla filmmaker (not waiting on a studio – doing it for yourself)? I often think of Steve Martin’s panned (one I enjoyed) film, “Bowfinger”, as it shows a filmmaker desperate enough to work around the rules/ studios.

CM: I would never wait for a studio to green light something in order to make it. In fact I just co-directed and co-wrote my first feature film, Cold Spots, independently. We are in post-production right now. It’s a horror film and I am stoked that we were able to pull it off. My company (that I incorporated when I was 18) is the company behind it; as well as a few small investors, and off we went. It was one of those situations where we were just sick of waiting around, despite being capable of doing a film on a lower budget. So we said, 'fuck it' and off we went to prove to the Man we could do it. Now we gotta sell, sell, sell, SELL IT. After we finish post of course. See bottom of interview for a synopsis of Cold Spots.



ST: You ‘appear’ to be laid back and relaxed on your video shoots. Are you just being kind for the cameras or do you just take things as they come, and not sweat the small stuff? Are you secretly OCD? Are you up all night, correcting every little ‘perceived’ mistake?

CM: It just depends on how the video is going. I can be a stress case and yell for no reason, or I can be chill and relaxed. It just kind of depends on how the battle is going that day, and if we're losing light.


ST: I’ve studied and I can’t seem to identify your filming ‘tag’. Most directors have a video tag, be it RT’s filmstrip intro, or Sigismondi’s unique jittery, jangly tag. Unless, your ‘tag’ is how you interplay light with dark and/or how you juxtapose the two. Perhaps it’s your use of water? I’m sure you and your close friends know exactly what identifies a film/video as a “Minihan”, but could you please enlighten the rest of us?

CM: Most directors do not have a tag. Not that I'm aware of. Honestly, I think it’s a bit silly to attach an intro, with your name on it, before every video.
Anyone who knows my style, or knows my work, can spot a video of mine within a good 20 seconds of watching it. Unless, of course, I’m being really experimental or something. Directors don’t need a tag to have an identifiable style. I cut all my own work and I think this is a big factor in being able to identify my work, I also am very hands-on with DOPs. Often times, I'll take the camera and operate it, myself, or I’ll DP the shoot, myself.
I think having a strong editing background is one of the most important things a director can have going for them. I don't want to put crazy film roll-outs and grain on every video I do, just to have an identifiable image or 'tag'. Like I said... diversity ....


ST: Do you choose the general theme/ storyline for the video and present it to the artist, or does the artist come to you with an idea and ask you to elaborate upon it by bringing in ‘the art’?

CM: I generally come up with the treatment plan for the video, but the artist might want to tweak it (or collaborate on an idea right from the get-go). It’s cool, either way.

ST: How many times do you listen to a song before a scene begins to materialize in your mind?

CM:
Sometimes 100 times, sometimes once. It depends on if a track is easy, and you get the idea you like right away. Others are harder, and you have to force it out, or pass on them. This is why every music video director ‘stock piles’ treatments that they have written for songs which they did not land the job for...
Funny, but true. You find yourself having a ‘stock pile’ of 20 video ideas you've written in the past, which can be adapted easily to a new track you’ve been given. It might seem a bit of a 'rehash' but, to be honest, these ‘stock pile’ treatments (that were originally rejected by a label or different artist) end up being adapted into some of my favorite videos that I have made.


ST: Do you hand select the extras that appear in the shots, or does a casting agency simply send the ‘type’ you’ve requested over? Does the band have a say in who appears? Do you ever get dreaded requests? (e.g. “I really want my girlfriend/ wife/ mistress/ boyfriend/ mate, whatever, to be in the video?”)

CM:
We do casting through agencies for actors or models. Generally speaking you get a ton of head shots sent over for the types you are looking for and then you meet or audition the top picks.
Sure, sometimes a band member will want their girlfriend to be in the video. I’m pretty cool with this kind of thing, though. It can only obviously work if the treatment allows for it or if they have the right look for it.


ST: Do you still use MediaStudio Pro for music videos, or could you please suggest better software and camera? What equipment would you suggest to others for a feature length film/movie?

CM:
Lol this is a funny question. I stopped using a PC to edit on when i was about 18 and I've been using Final Cut Pro ever since. Final Cut Pro is great... use that.


ST: Is the fish head Mother Mother’s tag, or was that something you thought of? I really enjoyed O my heart. Was it difficult to film?

CM: I think Mother Mother wanted to incorporate the fish somehow from the album artwork on the first video. It worked so well on ‘O My Heart’ that I pitched doing it again for the ‘Body Of Years’ video. Those were two really experimental and interesting videos to make, I had a great time on them - cool band, too!

ST: Who is Cody Mielke and how did the two of you meet and come to work together?




CM:
Sadly, Cody and I do not work together anymore. We met in film school and the relationship ran its course. He was my friend / producer.


ST: How many countries, locations, have you traveled to for your work? Any stand-out exotic/ fun locales? Could you please share some?

CM: I did a Hedley video in Barbados and I got food poisoning. It made what would have been an awesome trip a nightmare. I also shot a video in Cuba and that was pretty awesome. Aside from that I’ve shot in the United States numerous times, and pretty much everywhere in Canada - aside from Montreal. I want to go there.

Colin Minihan’s Random Videography

Here is a random videography of projects Colin Minihan has directed/ co-directed. Again, I must remind you this is only a sampling of this 25-year old’s body of work. I am sure I have missed many (so please feel free to add to this list).
A huge thank-you to Colin for being a good sport and allowing us our online interview. I do understand how busy he is, and hopefully his final consensus will be that the interview is fine, as is.

Random Videography:


Aaron Pritchett "How Do I get There"
Armchair Cynics “Ablaze

Cherry Bomb
Elise Estrada "These Three Words"
Faber Drive "Tongue Tied"

Faber Drive "When Im With You"
Faber Drive " Sleepless Nights

Faber Drive "Get up and Dance"
Faber Drive "Give Him Up"
Faber Drive "You and I tonight
George Canyon "Just Like You"

GOB – “Banshee Song”
Hedley "Don't talk to Strangers"
Hedley "Never Too Late"
Hunter Valentine “Revenge”

Jakalope "Witness"
Lillix – “Nowhere to Run”
Marianas Trench "Cross My Heart"

Colin and Josh - Having spoken/written to both of these artists, I can only imagine the laughs they must have when together. I would have loved to be on the set with Marianas and Colin Minihan (Hell, just a chat with Mike, Josh and Jon Simpkins had my sides aching for 2 days from laughing. Their expertise lies in the one line comeback/zingers/ I wish I could have written some of what was ‘really’ said, but alas not relevant.) Not only are these men talented, but they are extremely gregarious; both of them - personality personified!




Marianas Trench "All To Myself"
Marianas Trench "Celebrity Status"
Mother Mother "O My Heart"
Mother Mother "Body Of Years"
Obsidian "Ultimate Disaster"
Papa Roach "I almost told you that I loved you"
Protest The Hero "Divine Suicide of K"
Social Code "Bomb Hands"
Social Code "Satisfied"
Social Code "Everyday (late November)"
Social Code "The Shortest Line"
Ten Second Epic "Suck It Up, Princess"
Ten Second Epic "Count Yourself In"
Ten Second Epic "Life Times"
Ten Second Epic "Avenue Days"
Ten Second Epic "Old Habits Die Hard"
Theory of a Deadman "Bad Girlfriend"
Theory of a Deadman "So Happy"
The Flatliners "Eulogy"
The Set "Echo Head"
The Set "Survive"


Colin Minihan is interviewed on Urban Rush: August, 2010

Brief Synopsis for the movie Cold Spots

(New Film co-written and directed by Colin Minihan)


The film centers on the five-person crew of "Grave Encounters",a ghost-hunting reality show, which is shooting an episode inside an abandoned, insane asylum.

After interviewing numerous witnesses who claim to have had paranormal experiences there, they lock themselves inside the massive building and begin their investigation.

To their delight, strange things do begin happening - objects moving on their own, ghostly voices echoing through the halls - and they capture it all on camera. But they soon realize that the building is more than just haunted - it is alive - and doesn't want them to leave.

Doors that should lead outside only lead to more hallways, as if the building itself is changing. Time appears to pass, yet every daytime expected, reveals itself to still be night. The crew is confused and frightened.

The crew has found themselves trapped in an impossible nightmare, hiding from ghosts of crazed patients who haunt the building, slowly picking off the outsiders one by one.


As food and water run low and the crew desperately search for a way out ... but not before unearthing the truth behind the asylum's shrouded past ... Someone is managing to film their final close-up ... their demise, on camera!

Sounds positively creepy! Christine

Wednesday, November 07, 2007

Marianas Trench Concert Review By: Christine Albrecht

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Croatian Cultural Centre, November 5 2007

Marianas Trench delivered a solid final performance in Vancouver, Sunday night at the Croatian Cultural Centre to a large all-ages crowd. I say final performance as singer, Josh Ramsay, made it clear that Sunday’s performance would be the band’s final outing after one and a half years of touring and promoting their Fix Me CD release.

Fans definitely received their money’s worth as MT had three bands opening for them at this all ages venue. 16 MM started the night off, followed by Lotus Child with the third musical offering from Vancouver band, The Sessions.

Here’s a band (The Sessions) that is worthy of a larger following. The Croatian Cultural Centre is not the most acoustically pleasant of venues and a reviewer would be foolhardy to believe the vocals/ chords played in this venue actually represented a band’s talent. However, The Sessions actually sounded amazing in the CCC. That had me wondering what their studio sound was like as every lyric and note was crystal clear during Sunday’s gig. Their sound was upbeat, radio friendly, and singer, Josh Abel, had a genuine rapport with the crowd. I believe MT has introduced a new fan base to this Vancouver (and still unsigned!) indie act.

I am not sure if an award is given to a band for best fan acknowledgement, but if there was such an award, Marianas Trench would deserve it - hands down. They made themselves available for fan interaction as early as 6:00 p.m. at the CCC with MT drummer Ian Cassleman still manning the merchandise table 30 minutes prior to taking the stage. They still answer emails, pose for pictures and generally keep an upbeat public appearance despite their exhaustive touring schedule.

MT opened the set with Say Anything and kept up the energy through to their last song. At times, singer Josh Ramsay appeared to be wondering aloud why the crowd was quieter than usual (although they seemed loud enough to me). In retrospect, by the time MT took the stage their faithful following had been waiting patiently for four hours. Combine that fact with the audience fan age being sixteen plus - I would say that the crowd appreciation was still at an all time high.

Overall, MT’s performance was strong, although Josh’s vocals needed a few songs before warming up to his usual standard. Josh appears to be ready for this upcoming break from touring and I wondered how he’s managed to protect his vocals given such a demanding tour schedule. Josh stills maintains that friendly banter with the audience between songs; sharing personal information as if we were visiting informally. He noted the presence of his parents (and shared the tidbit that the person who ‘nails’ him in the head with an apple in the Shake Tramp video is actually his father, Miles Ramsay). Josh kibitzed a lot with Mike Ayley on stage but didn’t seem to engage as much with Matt Webb. Perhaps tonight was an exception, but it appeared they barely acknowledged one another - pretty difficult given the stage proximity.

Marianas Trench is planning to hit the studio for work on their second CD which will hopefully result in more exposure (especially American) for this popular Canadian band. They have paid their dues and it is time for some universal recognition.

I do have one complaint regarding the concert, and this complaint actually extends to the majority of band gigs I have attended of late. I do not like being held captive/coerced into chanting and applauding for an encore. Given that Marianas Trench’s Shake Tramp is one of the more popular songs from their CD Fix Me, to imply the band would perform a gig without singing Shake Tramp is absurd. So when the band ‘ended’ its set, I was slightly perturbed as I knew MT would return onstage to perform the song, but I am not sure if fans were aware that this was a ‘given’. I did not like being manipulated into cheering and clapping for a song that should have been included in their regular set.

Please note that MT is not alone in doing this staged encore routine - it seems to be the standard. A band plays the majority of songs from an album and then retires knowing the audience will make enough noise to encourage a return to the stage to perform their more popular songs.

What ever happened to genuine encores? Once upon a time, bands would perform all of their hits; only returning to the stage after an extended noisy plea/encouragement from an audience responding to an excellent performance. It used to be an audience’s ultimate compliment and in return, the band would pull out an obscure album track, perhaps a cover tune or an equally rare musical nugget which made the performance furthermore unique or special. Rarely did a band hold out their popular tunes in exchange for crowd adoration via an encore.

Obviously, I do not like this current ‘encore’ trend and I hope MT does not continue with this superficial formula. It merely reduces an encore to a ‘given’ part of the set, which in turn devalues any impact an encore would have had originally.

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Sunday, July 29, 2007

Marianas Trench - Interview With Josh Ramsay and Mike Ayley By: Christine Albrecht

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Mike Ayley (vocals/bass) and Josh Ramsay (lead vocals/ guitar) from Marianas Trench were kind enough to set aside an evening interview at the 604 Records studio Monday evening. I immediately congratulated the band on their cd release of ‘Fix Me’ due in stores October 3rd. Go out and buy, now.

I have to say that the biggest compliment I could hand this band was the fact that they sound like themselves! To expand, I was listening to their tunes and I thought, ‘Oh yes, I’ve heard this before’... and as I scoured all of the songs on my desktop I found the ‘similar’ gem - yeah, it was a song by... Marianas Trench. So I guess they sound like themselves.

Swanktrendz - First some basic editing stuff - Marianas has no apostrophe - right?

Marianas Trench - That’s right.

ST - I know you’ve been asked this a zillion times, but is the name from the geographic feature or from a line in the Pixie’s ‘Wave of Mutilation’ song?

MT - Neither, but that’s a new one. I didn’t know there was a lyric like that and I like the Pixies. No one’s ever asked us if it was from the Pixies.

ST - So the name doesn’t come from some obscure lyric?

MT - It’s a long story involving bricklaying and parasailing and the accidents that happen when you try to combine the two. One day we just said, maybe we should call ourselves ‘Marianas Trench’ - that’s the short version of a long story.

ST - You’ve been around since 2001?

MT - Sort of. Josh and Matt (Webb) hooked up in high school (both were in choir).

ST - Josh, you’ve been around music all of your life, and your mom (Coralynn Hanney) is a vocal coach - did she train you?

MT - Yes, but when I was younger I tried to avoid taking lessons with my Mom and she wanted wanted to avoid it as well as that was a strange dynamic. For a year or two in high school, I took lessons from the person she took lessons from. And then eventually that guy couldn’t teach me what I needed so I did some research and it turned out that the only person that could teach me what I needed to learn, was my mom. She still helps me from time to time.

ST - Your music, the song ‘Say Anything’ has consistently sat in the top 5 for Canada. Did John Webster produce this cd?

MT - I worked with John Webster independently from the band - when I was 16 or 17. He and I worked together when I was a solo artist. John is the one who introduced me to Jonathan Simkin (co-owner of 604 Records studio). He mixed a couple on that venture and I mixed four.

ST - You mixed? Is that an area you would like to pursue?

MT - It’s not my main passion - I’d rather play the music than produce it. But it can be good because I understand more about music. Also, it helps to know the technical language when you go into the studio to listen to the tracks. I can be really specific about what I want, as opposed to being vague like, ‘I would like something more green’.

ST - What about you Mike - would you like to do mixing?

MT - I don’t think I could do it - there’s too much information. I could probably mix a mean bass track.

ST - Some the stuff I’ve been reading about you (Josh), and I don’t know if this is applicable, but the discussions on addictions and then reading your lyrics, well... did you used to smoke heroin?

MT - Yes I did. I’ve been in recovery now for a long time. That was a big problem for me as a teenager.

ST - You must have started young.

MT - I was also fortunate enough to get out young. It is something that still inspires me to write lyrics because you end up with so much baggage from that. I went to a treatment centre when I was 18 (or 17).

ST - That is young. Then again, being surrounded by music when you were a child, I suppose it made you grow up fast.

MT - On one side you do grow up fast because you are faced with these harsh realities, and that teenaged feeling of being invincible suddenly dies. You also learn some really dark things about yourself and life. At the same time, as long as you’re using, emotionally, you don’t age at all. That’s the same for all addicts or alcoholics that you meet at a treatment centre. You may have different ages, let’s say 45 years old and 17 years old, but they are all talking about the same thing because, emotionally, they are the same age. It stunts your emotional growth.

ST - As you said, it does give you a lot of fodder for lyrics.

MT - Yes, it does. And the stuff I took away from it certainly gave me patience for a lot of other things in life. The tools you use to stay away from (in my case) drugs are the same tools that help you in life, to be a healthier person.

ST - And you Mike, did/do you have any vices?

MT - (Mike) I am a hard core chocolate addict. Any chocolate, as long as it’s not unsweetened. I will rummage through trash, through closets for it. I would go to the grocery store, buy icing and hide it. I’m pretty good now. (Josh interjects) You wouldn’t want to catch Mike on the wrong end of a chocolate fix.

ST - You’ll be in the 12-step chocoholic program.

MT - Nah, I’m never stopping. (Josh adds) Admitting you have a problem and doing something about it are two different things.

ST - With Marianas Trench being from Vancouver, well give me some hot West Coast spots that you enjoy hanging out in, or clubs you enjoy going to.

MT - I love Vancouver. After touring the country, I think Vancouver is the best, and most beautiful, place to live. It’s also the most versatile, by far. Vancouver’s got the beach, a major metropolitan area, the forest, and skiing all within a stone’s throw of each other. It’s amazing. I’m certainly not the guy to talk to about clubbing because as a recovering addict I don’t go to the ‘bar’. Plus when you make your living playing in bars five nights a week you’re not going to say, on your day off, ‘Hey let’s go to a bar’.

ST - Turning to Mike - what about you - where do you like to go?

MT - I used to know where all the great places were until we started spending most of the time playing in bars. Now I say, ‘Let’s just stay home.’

ST - What about local restaurants? Do you each have a favourite restaurant?

MT - (Mike) There’s a place down the road (from the studio at Ontario and 3rd) called Bin 49. It has around 30 seats and it’s got wicked food. As well it’s got the local ‘feel’. (Josh) Hamburger Mary’s on Davie. I live about a block from there and they have great food.

ST - Favourite unsung - unsigned bands?

MT - Jellyfish, Ben Folds Five

ST - They’re kind of popular. What about bands you’ve liked but they aren’t known?

MT - Total indie? There was a band that we played with in Hamilton. Mike, what was their name? (ST note - either The Flairs or Obsidian or Charlemagne...?) They sounded like ACDC, the drummer was the singer and they were awesome. I think Canada has a lot of good singers - like Matt in Tupelo Honey. Also, Vancouver’s Yuca - they won the Seeds Festival. Marble Rye are also good.

ST - That brings to mind another question. When a band has obvious talent, good vocals, good playing, what’s the difference between being unsigned and the ones who get signed?

MT - I think the difference is some bands spend most of their time on being great musicians, but they may not spend the time writing good songs. Or you’ll see great songwriters and none of them can play or sing. I think it takes a lot of work to build up both sides of the spectrum. It’s like playing baseball and having a really good pitcher who can’t bat. It’s a long process and I don’t think people have taken the time to work on all of the skills. There are bands out there that make you feel that they are the best musicians you’ve ever seen, but they can’t sing very well.

ST - (Jonathan Simkin co-owner of 604 Record Studio joined us at this stage.) What makes a band stand out to the degree that you would want to sign them?

Jonathan Simkin - Well in Marianas case, it would be the nude pictures they have of me... (now here is a funny guy) They dazzled me with their mediocrity. Seriously, Chad Kroeger and I are of the mind that the songs come first and the music comes second. Most bands, if they work hard enough and are willing to listen and improve, they can learn about playing and performance. But song writing is an innate ability - you can get better at performing. You can either write songs or not. I’d rather find a band that writes great songs than a band that can’t. You can always arrange for someone to have vocal lessons, etc. But you can’t teach someone to write great songs.

MT - - (Josh speaking) I have the opposite problem - I write too many songs, but that’s a good problem to have.

ST - What about bands who rest on their laurels after getting signed and don’t market themselves?

Jonathan Simkin I have no problem with bands who creatively want to make art for art’s sake, but stay in your garage and play. The minute you come into ‘our world’ (music business) you’re saying you want to do this for a living and the reality is you have to accept that marketing is part of the ‘job’. Music is a business. Some of the greatest bands in the world have subverted their own careers by being unwilling to be flexible with their music. Being signed only cuts your odds of becoming famous from one billion to one to one million to one. It doesn’t solve anything or automatically do anything. It just offers more resources.

MT - You have to have talent, luck and a hard work ethic. Talent doesn’t always enter into the equation. The days of being discovered while pumping gas are long over. You have to work hard. We work really hard promoting ourselves. (Mike interjects)The harder we work, and the more we get noticed, just makes us want to work even harder. And sometimes getting noticed turns out to be being at the right place at the right time. If you are working your ass off, it just gives you more opportunities to be seen.

ST - As well , it builds your reputation (within the music community) as being hard workers. I would also like to know about your upcoming tour with Lillix. That should be a nice line up and it will provide you with a different audience.

MT - We are looking forward to the tour. Now that we’ve had some success with our video on MuchMusic, this tour will bring us the younger demographic because we are performing all-ages shows. Most of our fan base is not old enough to get into a bar so this should be really fun.

ST - Josh, you write all the lyrics. Do you write the tune and then the lyrics or...?

MT - I do most of my writing before I fall sleep, or instead of sleeping. (Josh is an insomniac.) I’ll come up with an idea and I’ll go over and over it in my head while I’m falling asleep. Sometimes, if I am lucky, I will have the tune in my head and I will actually work through it while I’m sleeping. Most of the time it just causes me to have a fitful sleep.

ST - And the band comes in with the music? Does Josh come with the song ideas and then the band works through it?

MT - Yes. (Josh states) I will come in with an unfinished song and the band will flesh it out.

Jonathan Simkin (to Josh) Won’t the producer, after a couple of months decide that he has co-written a couple of the songs? (laughter)

MT - Nooo. Dave Genn did not cowrite anything on the record. He did help a lot with the arrangements because that is what he’s good at.

ST - So we’re not going to have a Sarah McLaughlin court case happening a year down the road?

MT - (loud laughter) Oooh - Jonathan Simkin was the lawyer on that case... (note - Swanktrendz did not know the link between Jonathan Simkin and the Sarah McLaughlin trial so it was not an intentional statement).

Jonathan Simkin If the case at been based on who cried the most tears, we would have won.

ST - That case made me aware that listeners don’t always know what is going on behind the scenes.

MT - If anything, Dave Genn will be suing us for emotional abuse. (laughter)

ST - Speaking of business, the band is very accessible for publicity. I guess all publicity is good publicity?

MT - Yeah, I get freaked out if I miss one opportunity to discuss the band.

ST - You’re good businessmen then - always looking for opportunity.

MT - Yeah, I don’t want to miss anything, ever. Even if it makes only ten new fans. That’s ten fans we didn’t have before.

ST - I have a Swiss friend visiting, the ‘Swiss contingent’ I called her, will be attending your concert. Hopefully she’ll go home in October and talk about Marianas Trench and garner some European exposure.

MT - That’s great.

ST - I did want to ask you a publicity question, Josh, because you were exposed to Tommy Lee and other rockers at a young age (through his dad’s studio). What do you make of Tommy Lee’s ‘Rockstar Supernova’ show? I thought it was a clever publicity ploy as Tommy’s turned on a whole new generation to his music.

MT - And he is also with 604 Records. It’s a smart business decision. Any of those shows are essentially karaoke. I do find it funny that no one has clued into the fact that they’re a televised karaoke show, but that being said, I think it’s proved to be a very smart way of marketing. But I wouldn’t say the show is marketing ‘artists’. As Jonathan was saying, song writing is very important. No one from those shows can actually write a song.

ST - Perhaps, but I do believe that Lukas Rossi (winner of Supernova) can write songs. He had his own band in Canada and wrote his own songs.

MT - I don’t know the artist you’re talking about, specifically, so I will not speak to his ability. Those shows, however, are marketed for entertainment not songwriting. The contestents are singers, and what a great way to get a career - even if it’s only for ten months. You might make some cash, you can have some fun, and you’ll get your 15 minutes of fame. The management can provide you with an army of songwriters who will sell you a hit song, and that’s cool. From a business perspective it makes a lot of sense, so I don’t have a problem with it. (Mike counters) - but it doesn’t nurture the ‘finding’ of a great band. It makes it too easy to ‘discover’ a favourite singer without helping the grassroots of the music business. (Josh) It’s a smoke and mirrors kind of marketing, like a star machine. These show contestants are not people who have paid their dues in the music industry. They’ve enough dumb luck to fall into that instant stardom, but they’re not going to be a healthy person when they receive too much attention, too soon. They’’ll get all this exposure overnight without having done any work. They’re not going to appreciate or respect the position they’re in. They’ll treat people badly because they don’t know any other way.

ST - So, because they’ve been thrown into this position of power so quickly, and don’t know what it’s like to be on the receiving end, they may behave badly?

MT - And I would probably be that way, too, if I were 16 years old, won some show and didn’t know my ass from a hole in the ground. I just look at the whole phenomena as pure business - those shows are pure business. I don’t think they are anything to do with good music. It actually doesn’t matter what the music’s like. That’s another thing - you could go on the show and win, or not even win, and you’ve built this huge fan base. All the power to them (the contestants). I don’t compare them to us as they didn’t spend years learning how to sing and learning how to play.

ST - Someone I was speaking with the other day said that music, nowadays, appears ‘cheapened.’

It is and it’s not just because of the fake reality shows. It’s also because the production of music does not rely on talent, anymore, or performance. It’s an industry that relies on computers. (Mike) The finished music is not a direct representation of what is happening in the live studio. (Josh to interviewer) I don’t know if you can sing or not...

ST - Laughing - definitely NO!

MTWell, I could get you into a studio and have you to sing for ...10 minutes and you’d be amazed at how good I can make you sound.

ST - That would definitely be a miracle. I recall hearing something you said about singing a cappella and if a vocalist cannot sing without accompaniment or studio help, then he/she can’t sing. I thought that was a good comment because how many singers can go onstage and sing well, live?

MT - We actually do sing a cappella during our gigs. I think that’s why music is becoming so soulless. You have reality television shows on one hand, and crafty studio engineering on the other and at the end of that, what you get is a product.

ST - And I suppose a fallout of that final product would be lip-synching during concerts?

MT - Yes. What are you going to get? Look at Ashlee Simpson. Here’s an example of a double-edged sword. What’s more embarrassing, getting caught lip-synching on Saturday Night Live or being booed off the stage at the Super Bowl because they don’t like your voice? I think the lesser of two evils would be doing a silly dance at SNL. And don’t tell me that it was acid reflux, or whatever. I’ve produced a lot of stuff and you are looking at a lot of work to get a backtrack together that only has a few things on it so you can play it during a live show. You can’t just ‘happen to have’ that track ready to go. It takes hours to put that tape together.

ST - That’s a good point.

MT - Well it’s ludicrous that anyone would think otherwise.

ST - But I think there are a lot of people who don’t know what is involved. They really believe this (having to lip synch at the last moment) is a real predicament. And these artists are selling a lot of records.

MT - We should all be that lucky. If I was some hack who couldn’t sing and I could get a career handed to me, I’d be saying, ‘Hell ya!’. I don’t begrudge Ashlee Simpson, but I don’t view her as competition either. We mght as well be jealous of Barney the Dinosaur because he’s popular.

ST - Never mind, we are all jealous of Barney’s fame.

MT - Well Barney and Raffi are not the kind of competition you worry about in the business.

ST - I really enjoy your lyrics - they are very ... raw. I hope to review your upcoming gig, as well as have the Swiss gal take Marianas Trench’s music back to Europe and start a buzz.

MT - Great. Get that European fire started. Worldwide domination! (Mike solemnly adds) But all we really want is ... Latvia... (laughter)

On that note, I said good-bye to Mike, Josh and Jonathan and I am presently trying to think of anyone I may know in Latvia.

Thanks to 604 Record Studios, Julie (label PR) in Ontario and Marianas Trench for accomodating a last minute interview. They are an extremely personable, and talented group.